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Rothgar · Aug 04, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Well, you've got a good rant going and the usual disenters agreeing with you, but no actual proof of anything. No emails that you sent, no responces from ANet, nothing.

Lets take at what we know about the poster "Join Date: 08-04-2005", hum, thats today. Number of posts? Seven. All in this thread. So no standing in the Guru community.

So what we have is someone who just created an account on the fourms, bashing ANet with no real proof of anything that actual gone wrong other then his own tale. And this has happened to no other people so far (and this thread has 810 view as of this post).

If this doesn't have trolling written all over it, what does?

hydrak · Aug 04, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Maybe the OP was just using some "friendly" (or at least he thought it was friendly) keystroke macros while he was afking in Lion Arch.

FX8 · Aug 04, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Rothgar

Well, you've got a good rant going and the usual disenters agreeing with you, but no actual proof of anything. No emails that you sent, no responces from ANet, nothing.

Lets take at what we know about the poster "Join Date: 08-04-2005", hum, thats today. Number of posts? Seven. All in this thread. So no standing in the Guru community.

So what we have is someone who just created an account on the fourms, bashing ANet with no real proof of anything that actual gone wrong other then his own tale. And this has happened to no other people so far (and this thread has 810 view as of this post).

If this doesn't have trolling written all over it, what does?

One thing I have to say, "OH MY GOD". It's unbelievable how some people really know how to make an ass of themselves. Instead of asking "can you provide some quote / emails" this one goes ahead with the sarcastic remarks...

So from what Rothgar implies, one would have to be a member here for what? a year and with perhaps another 800 posts, so that the problem can be classed as truth instead of lies? Good thing this guy isn't a moderator, btw Rothgar you'd make a VERY bad mod

Perhaps Rothgar expects me to post all 14 emails / reponse

this guy is a joke.

Here are some attachments with names erased for obvious reason (yes even the GW Support's username is removed). As I've said in the posts above, I did NOT log into the game hundreds of times aday, the only time I need to switch characters is when I'm moving items or trading.

So did I make up this story to have a stab at Anet, answer: NO. Am I correct on saying I've been banned for 6 days, answer: YES (date in first email 29th July, today 4th August)

Rothgar · Aug 04, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39

No, making an ass out of yourself issuing personal attacks against people who bring up valid points of an argument. As you have quoted my post, I know you've read it, and as you can see, there are no personal attacks, just valid points and a conclusion in the form of a question.

Obviously you didn't like my conclution and set about in proving me wrong. Which you did (provided those pictures aren't faked, but I doubt someone would go that far unless their extreamly pissed off, so I'm willing to concede their real).

As for being a member, yes, if someone who's been here just a month, with some valid posts on other issues, had posted the same topic I would have put much more weight in it. Someone signing up to the fourm only to rant is suspect.

Now if you want, you could thank me for pushing you to provide proof. Some people might actually believe you now.

Hum... a second thought, what excatly are you trying to accomplish with this thread other then venting? Right now the only good thing I can see coming from it is a warning not to switch accounts too much.

FX8 · Aug 04, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

1) That first part of my last post was directed to you simply because the first thing you said was a sarcastic insult. Oh and btw all my other post to other people were friendly.

2) I started this post to let people know what "may" happen to them and so they don't end up in the same boat. Perhaps someone at ANet might see this post and decide that the "switch character button" isn't such a bad idea. "Maybe" some other player with the same problem can shed some light on to this. How do other people know of a problem if no one posts them?

Aniewiel · Aug 04, 2005, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by stumpy

back on topic ... Anet will not ban you 'for the hell of it' they need evidence. Some guy killed himself because he was ripped of by 2 people who scammed him in guildwars ... (Anet did not ban those 2 people) ... why because they had no real evidence, they couldn't.

I have heard this for over a week now. Does anyone have a working link to a news report or an obituary that actually states this? Or is this another one of those internet rumors that pops up on occasion? If someone has a link, I'd appreciate seeing it.

Thanks!...oh and if it's a link to that Christian forum site, that never worked for me...so...a newspaper report/magazine report/obituary would be good.

Loviatar · Aug 04, 2005, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

I have heard this for over a week now. Does anyone have a working link to a news report or an obituary that actually states this? Or is this another one of those internet rumors that pops up on occasion? If someone has a link, I'd appreciate seeing it.

Thanks!...oh and if it's a link to that Christian forum site, that never worked for me...so...a newspaper report/magazine report/obituary would be good.

no they never did

by the way the poster at the christian site was a new member and his only posts were the so called suicide and the screenshots only showed parts of the scam and a melodramatic threat of suicide scene.

if somthing like that happened the media and senator whosits would have been frothing at the mouth on the dangers of these games (EQ suicide remember?) while not giving the name to protect the name of the minor.

the scammed person posted here and sounded mad not depressed

this sounds exactly like a setup to get back at the scammers not a suicide

amazing that he had access to the victims pc and everything else

i think they were all one person under different names

Charrbane · Aug 05, 2005, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Mavrik

exactly, but they give you 20 slots to share between 1-4 characters. Now I like to travel across the map with nothing but salvage kits and identify so I can keep/salvage everything I find. I dump everything into storage. But I'm sitting on a ton of runes for my pre-searing characters so they are stored on my post searing ranger. I say the shared storage which is a GOOD IDEA, at least have more slots.

Geez that does suck with the banning.... id go nuts if I was banned like that for a week or more. I too switch characters a lot when I'm trying to sort out my loot. Currently I have a Necro who is holding all my weps and dyes.... I think we need more storage so we won't be doing this multi-login stuff so much. I wish the storage would add 20 slots for each character you create after each one pays to open the vault dealie.

SOT · Aug 05, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

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Originally Posted by FX8

Storage bin is 20 slots, common and rare materials I would need to use myself and sell would account for most of the storage plus the odd upgrades, weapons, dyes, collector items. If you find a way to fit all these into one common space then let me know.

USE your mats! Get someone you know and trust to STORE stuff in theirs!

Do you have all bag slots on your character with BAGS on them?

DrSLUGFly · Aug 05, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

I love this game, and totally agree with the opening poster. At the end of every gaming session I log out and log in about 12 times, 8 to shuffle the items and 4 more to double check each character.

Char 1 - gold items and collector items (ie. thorny carapaces)
Char 2 - runes
Char 3 - dyes and unidentified gold/purple items
Char 4 - junk, upgrades
Storage - craft materials

I desperately wish that Anet would include a Character change screen and perhaps even a Xunlai at the Character change screen... I collect items. I don't trade, I don't want to get ridiculously rich... this is just how I enjoy the game, I like having 100 dyes and 1000 irons. But it's so annoying to log out / long in so much. And no it's concerning because of this poor lads undue punishment.

PieXags · Aug 05, 2005, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by SOT

USE your mats! Get someone you know and trust to STORE stuff in theirs!

Do you have all bag slots on your character with BAGS on them?

SOT you're not being very logical here. So what, everyone's supposed to give stuff to their friends and just hope that they give it back? Also they're supposed to just count on their friends to hold stuff for them, despite the fact that if you need someone else to hold things, that they problably don't have room?

I feel for the OP, he's right, there really isn't enough space in the storage. Lets put it this way.

You should not be able to carry more things than you can fit in your storage. That's just pretty stupid, IMO.

Evan montegarde · Aug 05, 2005, 05:32 AM // 05:32

And people say Anet has good customer support....

Asplode · Aug 05, 2005, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Uhoes, I personally log in and out of my account an alarming amount of times since I switch from my farmer, to my monk, to my runner, or in and out of my pvp character slot, I might even dare say over a hundred times in one day, but I've never gotten TEMP-BANNED for it.

Appreciate the warning.

hydrak · Aug 05, 2005, 05:52 AM // 05:52

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Originally Posted by PieXags

SOT you're not being very logical here. So what, everyone's supposed to give stuff to their friends and just hope that they give it back? Also they're supposed to just count on their friends to hold stuff for them, despite the fact that if you need someone else to hold things, that they problably don't have room?

I feel for the OP, he's right, there really isn't enough space in the storage. Lets put it this way.

You should not be able to carry more things than you can fit in your storage. That's just pretty stupid, IMO.

For some of us, there will never be enough space in storage. If anet ever decides to add 1 extra slot for storage, that 1 extra slot will quickly be filled by the next piece of junk we find.

a_scrawny_gnoll01 · Aug 05, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54

This is most likely what happened, but only is what I think happened.
Pending on your connection speed, and your connectoin to their server, Anet could have come to the *assumption* that you were logging characters in an attempt to dupe items. I can explain...
You move an item from, say, your warrior/monk to the storage, and immediately exit out. Perhaps the system lags, and your warrior keeps the item in both his inventory and the storage. Anet catches this *log* as a duping attempt, and bans your account a week with no questions asked until they can investigate.

They find out that their system screwed up (possibly) and apologize for the inconvenience.

^^ Just a theory at what happened.

Gaile Gray · Aug 05, 2005, 06:15 AM // 06:15

I guess it's appropriate to hop in with a bit of information. You can be very, very sure that we would not block an account without a good reason. The number of logs would have to be exceptional for us to even note the situation.

I am not talking 5 or 10.
I am not talking dozens.
I am talking many more than that.

One way that people try all sorts of cheats -- hacks, dupes, account stealing -- involves log-in tricks. When we see what appears to be an enormous number of logins, we investigate. When we see other supporting information, we take action on the account. Yes, we gather logs and they are very detailed indeed.

I don't think we need to apologize for doing this. In fact, I think we would need to apologize for not taking action to keep the game secure.

hydrak · Aug 05, 2005, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I guess it's appropriate to hop in with a bit of information. You can be very, very sure that we would not block an account without a good reason. The number of logs would have to be exceptional for us to even note the situation.

I am not talking 5 or 10.
I am not talking dozens.
I am talking many more than that.

One way that people try all sorts of cheats -- hacks, dupes, account stealing -- involves log-in tricks. When we see what appears to be an enormous number of logins, we investigate. When we see other supporting information, we take action on the account. Yes, we gather logs and they are very detailed indeed.

I don't think we need to apologize for doing this. In fact, I think we would need to apologize for not taking action to keep the game secure.

Thank you for responding.

If you have solid evidence of hacking that warrents banning, instead of banning the offender temporarily, why doesn't anet ban him/her permenantly?

Ultimate_Gaara · Aug 05, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04

wait... so Anet knows everytime I sign in?... I dont know if to respond with "thats cool" or "now im scared"

at least we know it was all in the name of security, i guess it could have been worse

TheGreatBoo · Aug 05, 2005, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions

WOW! This situation must really suck. I have never had a problem with switching accounts..i do so fairly often and quickly. I have only ever once miss-spelled my password too.

Sounds like Anet owe you an explanation and possibly an apology. One week without playing a game that you paid for?
Let's hope this is a one-off event or else many people could start a revolt that sends shockwaves through the communities. Maybe then, they might rethink their policies.

Keep sending those emails if i was you. They all have to looked over. Fill their inbox until you get a response that you deserve as a consumer...you have rights too.

Yeah thats a great idea. First of all, they had reasonable evidence, players just disagree with this. I can understand the need for frequent character changes, but due to what I just read from gaile, theres no reason for 100 or more.

Second of all, if you hate the game community and developers so much, please leave the game. Theres no point in revolting over a one week ban. Even if they did make a mistake. It's a mistake, everyone makes them.

Also, filling their inbox will do nothing but take time away from the unread and possibly urgent mailings. It may also get your email automatically sorted out and trashed. Sending continual and useless mail is childish and only proves that you would rather start problems, as opposed to fixing them.

And since you're a consumer, you have to right to be a griefer? Grow up. So having a problem of your own, warrants creating problems for others and the guildwars team? Once again, grow up and if you're this angry over the matter and at the guildwars staff, please leave the game. We have enough griefers and whiners as is.

Ultimate_Gaara · Aug 05, 2005, 07:20 AM // 07:20

im think im going to agree with you on this one... just seems everyone is out to get Anet, if i got a week ban id shrug my shoulders and play another game for a week, just be happy its only a week ban